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Concerning Wernher von
Braun, rocket scientist : the Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
December 2000
Dr Carol Rosin was the first woman
corporate manager of Fairchild Industries and was
spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the last years of
his life. She founded the Institute for Security and
Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington DC and has
testified before Congress on many occasions about space
based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr Rosin a plan to
justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an
extraterrestrial threat. She was also present at meetings
in the '70s when the scenario for the Gulf War of the
'90s was planned.
CR: Dr Carol Rosin
SG: Dr Steven Greer
CR: My name is Carol Rosin. I am an
educator who became the first woman corporate manager of
an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries.
I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have
consulted to a number of companies, organizations, and
government departments, even the intelligence community.
I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I
was part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role
model for how to sell space-based weapons to the public.
The MX missile is yet another weapon system that we
didn't need. I founded the Institute for Security and
Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think
tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress
and the President's Commission on Space.
When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries
from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von
Braun. We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von
Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would
live a few more years to tell me about the game that was
being played- that game being the effort to weaponize
space, to control the Earth from space and space itself.
Von Braun had a history of working with weapons systems.
He escaped from Germany to come to this country and
became a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I
had met him. Von Braun's purpose during the last years of
his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and
decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb,
dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary,
unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the
alternatives that are available.
As practically a deathbed speech, he
educated me about those concepts and who the players were
in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was
dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the
weaponization of outer space. When Wernher Von Braun was
dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to
appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak. I did
this.
What was most interesting to me was a
repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over
again during the approximately four years that I had the
opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that
was being used to educate the public and decision makers
was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an
enemy. The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was
that first the Russians are going to be considered to be
the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the
identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer
satellites". We were told that they were coming to
get us and control us-that they were "Commies."
Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to
follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were
going to identify third-world country
"crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern.
But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we
would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at
this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it.
Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build
space-based weapons.
BBC
NEWS :
JANUARY.2004Astronomers
have revealed how they came within minutes of
alerting the world to a potential asteroid strike
last month. Some
scientists believed on 13 January that a 30m
object, later designated 2004 AS1, had a
one-in-four chance of hitting the planet within
36 hours. It could have caused local devastation
and the researchers contemplated a call to
President Bush before new data finally showed
there was no danger.
The procedures for
raising the alarm in such circumstances are now
being revised.
MARCH 19TH.2004Astronomers have watched a
small object make the closest approach to the
Earth of any space rock yet observed.
The asteroid, called
2004 FH and about 25m wide, passed by at a
distance of just 43,000km at 2208GMT on Thursday.
Scientists say there was never any danger of the
Earth being struck by the object, which was found
by an automated sky survey on Tuesday.
Astronomers believe they
are getting much better at finding the smaller
rocks that make close approaches. It gives them
more confidence they will detect the more
dangerous asteroids on a potential collision
course with Earth. If 2004 FH had struck the
planet, it would probably have burnt up in the
atmosphere.
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And the funniest one of all was what he
called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final
scare. And over and over and over during the four years
that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would
bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the
last card is the alien card. We are going to have to
build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is
a lie."
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we have witnesses, evidence and
testimonials that something very real and
weird is happening in the sky, and now
among us, maybe a frightening menace or
just an encounter with the unknown. In
any case, Friday January 16, 2004 will
remain seared in officer Leonardo
Samaniego's memory as the night that he
confronted the horror of encountering the
unknown.
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- Santiago
Yturria
Monterrey, N.L. Mexico s
yturria@intercable.net
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I think I was too naïve at that time to know the
seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put
on the system. And now, the pieces are starting to fall
into place. We are building a space-based weapons system
on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was
trying to hint that to me back in the early 70's and
right up until the moment when he died in 1977.
What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort
in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that
it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could
possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into
space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate
past the point of people even understanding it until it
was already up there and too late.
When Von Braun was dying in front of me, the very first
day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his
side. He was tapping on the desk telling me, "You
will come to Fairchild." I was a schoolteacher. He
said, "You will come to Fairchild and you will be
responsible for keeping weapons out of space." The
way he said it with this intenseness in his eyes, and
added that very first day, the first time I met him, that
space-based weapons were a dangerous, destabilizing, too
costly, unnecessary, untestable, unworkable idea.
The last card that was being held was the
extraterrestrial enemy card.
The intensity with which he said that, made me realize
that he knew something that he was too afraid to mention.
He was too afraid to talk about it. He would not tell me
the details.
I am not sure that I would have absorbed them if he had
told me the details or even believed him in 1974. But
there was no question that that man knew and had a need
to know, I found out later.
There is no doubt in my mind that
Wernher Von Braun knew about the extraterrestrial issue.
He explained to me the reasons why weapons were going to
be put into space, the enemies against whom we were going
to build these weapons, and that all of that was a lie.
He mentioned that extraterrestrials were going to be
identified as the final enemy against whom we were going
to build space-based weapons back in 1974.
The way he said it to me, there was no doubt in my mind
that he knew something that he was too afraid to talk
about.
Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the
details that he knew related to extraterrestrials except
that one day extraterrestrials were going to be
identified as an enemy against whom we are going to build
an enormous space-based weapons system. Wernher Von Braun
actually told me that the spin was a lie-that the premise
for space-based weaponry, the reasons that were going to
be given, the enemies that we were going to identify-were
all based on a lie.
I have been tracking the space-based weapons issue for
about 26 years.
I have debated Generals and Congressional
Representatives. I have testified before the Congress and
the Senate. I have met with people in over 100 countries.
But I have not been able to identify who the people are
who are making this space-based weapons system happen. I
see the news. I see the administrative decisions being
made. I know that they are all based on lies and greed.
But I have yet to be able to identify
who the people are. That is after tracking this issue for
26 years. I know that there are big secrets being kept
and I know that it is time the public and decision-makers
pay attention to the people who are now going to be
disclosing the truth. Then we need to make some definite
changes and build a system in space that will benefit
every single person, and all of the animals, and the
environment of this planet. The technology is there. The
solutions to Earth's urgent and long-term potential
problems are there. I have a feeling that once we start
studying this extraterrestrial issue, all of the
questions are going to be answered that I have had for 26
years.
But I have concluded that it is based on a few people
making a lot of money and gaining power. It is about ego.
It is not about our essence and who we really are on this
planet and loving each other and being at peace and
cooperating. It isn't about using technology to solve
problems and heal people in the planet. It isn't about
that. It is about a few people who really are playing an
old, dangerous, costly game for their own pocketbooks and
power struggle. That is all it is.
I believe that this entire space-based weapons game is
initiated right here in the United States of America.
What I hope is that with this information that is being
disclosed, the new administration will to do what is
right. That is to transform the war game into a space
game so that we use the technologies that are available
not just as spin-offs of war technology, but as direct
technological applications to build a cooperative space
system that will benefit the entire world and that will
allow us to communicate with the extraterrestrial
cultures that are obviously out there.
Who would benefit from these space-based weapons? They
are the people who work in that arena, people in the
military, in industries, in universities and labs, in the
intelligence community. This is not just in the United
States but it is worldwide. This is a worldwide
cooperative system. Wars are cooperative. Just as peace
will be when it breaks out. But right now there are a lot
of people benefiting.
This is what our economy has been based on in this
country and spreading around the world-war. People suffer
as a result. It is not fair. It never has been. People
have screamed: "out of swords let us build plow
shares, let's have peace and hold hands around the
world," but it hasn't worked because too many people
are benefiting. Not only are they benefiting financially,
but from what my experience is there are people who
actually believe that Armageddon should happen so we have
to have these wars.
So, it is going from the pocketbook, to the religious
right: some people actually believe that we have to have
wars for these religious reasons. There are people who
just love war. I have met warriors who just love to go to
war. Then there are the good people, the soldiers, who
just take orders. They have to feed their children and
send them to college so they want to keep their jobs.
People in laboratories have told me that they don't want
to work on these technologies for war but if they don't
they won't get a paycheck. Who is going to pay them? But
what I see is that there are not only dual uses for these
technologies but there are many uses for the same
technologies.
We can build space hospitals, schools,
hotels, laboratories, farms, industries. It may sound far
out but if we don't do that we are going to build battle
stations and weapons pointed down all of our throats and
into space. Apparently we have been doing some of that
already.
We have a choice now that can be made. We can all
benefit-all of the people in the military industrial
complex, in the intelligence community, in universities
and labs, in the United States and all over the world-we
can all benefit. We can just transform that industry so
easily with just a decision based on our highest
consciousness, our spirituality, and on the fact that we
have no choice unless we all want to die. And we don't.
So we can all benefit financially, spiritually, socially,
psychologically; it is technologically and politically
feasible to transform this game now and everybody will
benefit.
In 1977, I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in a
conference room called the War Room. In that room were a
lot of charts on the walls with enemies, identified
enemies. There were other more obscure names, names like
Saddam Hussein and Khadafi. But we were talking then
about terrorists, the potential terrorists. No one had
ever talked about this before but this was the next stage
after the Russians against whom we were going to build
these space-based weapons. I stood up in this meeting and
I said, "Excuse me, why are we talking about these
potential enemies against whom we are going to build
space-based weapons if, in fact, we know that they are
not the enemy at this time?"
Well, they continued the conversation about how they were
going to antagonize these enemies and that at some point,
there was going to be a war in the Gulf, a Gulf War. Now
this is 1977, 1977! And they were talking about creating
a war in the Gulf Region when there was 25 billion
dollars in the space-based weapons program that had yet
to be identified. It wasn't called the Strategic Defense
Initiative, at least. Not until 1983. This weapons
system, then, had obviously been going on for some time
and I didn't know anything about. So I stood up in this
meeting in 1977 and said, "I would like to know why
we are talking about space-based weapons against these
enemies. I would like to know more about this. Would
someone please tell me what this is about?" Nobody
answered. They just went on with this meeting as though I
hadn't said anything.
Suddenly, I stood up in the room and said, "If
nobody can tell me why you are planning a war in the Gulf
when there is a certain amount of money in a budget so
that you can create the next set of weapons systems that
will be the beginning of the sell to the public about why
we need space-based weapons, then consider this: my
resignation. And you will not hear from me again!"
And nobody said a word, because they were planning a war
in the Gulf and it happened exactly as they planned it,
on time.
SG: Who was at this meeting?
CR: The room was filled with people in the revolving door
game. There were people that I had seen once in a
military uniform and other times in a gray suit and an
industry outfit. These people play a revolving door game.
They work as consultants, industry people, and/or
military and intelligence people. They work in the
industries and they revolve themselves through these
doors and right into government positions.
I stood up in this meeting and asked if I was hearing
correctly. That when there was 25 billion dollars
expended in the space-based weapons budget, that there
was going to be a war in the Gulf, stimulated, created,
so that they could then sell the next phase of weapons to
the public and the decision-makers. This war was going to
be created so that they could dump the old weapons and
create a whole new set of weapons. So I had to resign
from that position. I could no longer work in that
industry.
In about 1990 I was sitting in my living room looking at
the money that had been spent on space-based weapons
research and development programs and I realized that it
had come to that number, about 25 billion dollars, and I
said to my husband, "I am now going to stop
everything. I am now going to stop and sit and watch CNN
television and I am going to wait for the war to
happen." My husband said, "Well, you have
finally gone over the edge. You have flipped out."
Friends said, "You have really gone
too far this time. There is not going to be a war in the
Gulf, nobody is talking about a war in the Gulf."
I said, "There is going to be a war in the Gulf. I
am going to sit here and wait for the war in the
Gulf." And it happened right on schedule.
As part of the war game in the Gulf, we in the public
were told that the United States was successful in
shooting down Russian Scud Missiles. We were
rationalizing new budgets based on that success. In fact,
we found out later, after the budgets were approved for
the next phase of weapons, that it was a lie. We did not
have successful shoot-downs the way we were told. It was
all a lie, just to get more money put in the budget to
make more weapons.
I was one of the first people to go independently to
Russia when I heard that they had "killer
satellites."
[See the testimony of Dr Paul Czysz. SG]
When I went to Russia in the early 70's, I found out that
they didn't have killer satellites, that it was a lie. In
fact, the Russian leaders and people wanted peace. They
wanted to cooperate with the United States and with the
people of the world.
Another time I called Saddam Hussein when he was lighting
his oil fields on fire. My husband was in the kitchen
while I was making this phone call. I got a call back
from his First Attaché with Saddam Hussein nearby and he
asked, "Are you a reporter? Are you an agent?
Why do you want to know?"
I said, "No. I am just a citizen who helped to start
the movement to prevent the weaponization of outer space
and I have found that a lot of stories that I have been
told about weapons systems and the enemies are not true.
I wanted to find out what would satisfy Saddam Hussein so
he would stop making these oil fields catch fire and stop
antagonizing people." He said, "Well, nobody
has ever asked him that question, what he wants."
So, when I hear that there is a possible
threat of extraterrestrials-and I look at the history of
thousands of years of possible ET visitations, and hear
the disclosures of honest military-intelligence- industry
people who have had experiences with UFO's, with crashes
and landings, with live and dead bodies of
extraterrestrial beings-I know it is a lie. And if I am
ever told that these are enemies against whom we have to
build space-based weapons systems, based on my own
personal experience of having worked in the military
industrial complex on weapons systems and military
strategy, I am going to know it is a lie.
It is a lie.
Not only will I not believe it, but I am going to go out
as loudly as I can and tell everyone to take a look. They
[the ET's] have not taken us away yet. We are still here
after thousands of years of visits. If in fact they are
still visiting us now and we have not been harmed then we
have to look at this as something that is not a hostile
occurrence.
It would be my hope and my intention to do everything I
could to work with people who are working to communicate
with and cooperate with these extraterrestrial beings.
They are clearly not hostile. We are here. That is enough
proof for me.
There is no limit to how people can choose to live on
this planet. We have a chance to do that and I think that
the window is closing rapidly. I don't think that we have
much time in which to make that decision. We are too
close in too many ways to having some horrible disaster
happen, having some sort of war take place, whether it is
from high technology or an exotic weapons system.
We need leadership and it has to start with the United
States President and that is who we all have to reach. If
you are international, if you are around the world, if
you are in the United States of America, whether you are
from any party, any belief system or religion- the United
States Commander in Chief, the President of the United
States is the person that needs to be reached.
We need to say that we want an ultimate, comprehensive,
verifiable ban on all space-based weapons.
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Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia.
Tel: 07 5442 9280; Fax: 07 5442 9381
http://www.nexusmagazine.com
"The nature of the universe is such
that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary,
the means always determine the end."
(Aldous Huxley)
Dissidentvoice.org PENTAGON
PREPS FOR WAR IN SPACE
An Air Force report is
giving what analysts call the most detailed
picture since the end of the Cold War of the Pentagon's efforts to turn outer
space into a battlefield.
For years, the American
military has spoken in hints and whispers, if at
all, about its plans to develop weapons in space.
But the U.S. Air Force Transformation
Flight Plan
changes all that. Released in November, the
report makes U.S. dominance of the heavens a top
Pentagon priority in the new century. And it runs
through dozens of research programs designed to
ensure that America can never be challenged in
orbit -- from anti-satellite lasers to weapons
that "would provide the capability to strike
ground targets anywhere in the world from
space."
Space has become an
increasingly important part of U.S. military
efforts. Satellites are used more and more to
talk to troops, keep tabs on foes and guide smart
bombs. There's also long been recognition that
satellites may need some sort of protection
against attack.
But the Air Force report
goes far beyond these defensive capabilities,
calling for weapons that can cripple other
countries' orbiters.
That prospect worries
some analysts, who fear the U.S. may spark a
worldwide arms race in orbit.
"I don't think
other countries will be taking this lying
down," said Theresa Hitchens, the vice
president of the Center
for Defense Information. The space weapons programs
listed in the Air Force report went largely
unnoticed until Hitchens circulated them in an
e-mail Thursday. "This will certainly prompt
China into actually moving forward" on space
weapon plans of its own, she added. "The
Russians are likely to respond with something as
well."
My Wired News article has details on the Air Force's
space war plans.
THERE'S MORE:
Quicker, cheaper ways to get into orbit -- that's
also a key component of the Air Force report.
Right now, space launches have to be planned
months in advance. But the Air Force wants to
orbiters to be able to take off "on
demand" -- just like planes do today.
Another goal is a
hypersonic missile, launched from the United
States, that can strike almost anywhere in the
world. That's something Defense Tech
discussed in detail here.
AND MORE: Gen.
Lance Lord, who heads Air Force Space Command,
told Inside the Air Force that he's
focusing on "reversible effects" in
space -- weapons that can "temporarily
degrade enemy capability, but do not permanently
damage their space systems," according to
the journal. "However, he did not rule out
pursuing more damaging counterspace capabilities
for use when it is in the interest of national
security."
AND MORE: Space.com
has a killer round-up of what's in the Air Force plan.
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